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Sunday, July 31, 2022

Travel / Non Revving - HL 341 (5)

 

 Note:  About layover hotels (List Now Updated as of Nov 2021) Lists are no longer accessible on the DeltaNet.  The page is password protected for our PCN group ONLY.  Please use the password of pcnpilot

To access the 2021 listing of layover hotels click here:  http://pcn.homestead.com/Seniority.html

See FULL REPORT of our July London trip in this section below:

 

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Bad News – Flight Cancellations and its impact on non-rev travel. It seems like there was a time you just got a whim and decided to travel and things magically worked out.   Now, if we try non-revving we do our homework,  and with London a lot of it was needed.  Still, us non-revs did not see a LHR restriction on pax totals of 100K/day being slapped on by the UK government.  We were over there for about 4 days before we saw any negative results from this govnt restriction.  Then the flights started to be cancelled and the pile of frustrated returning nonrevs began to mount and snowball.   Things that looked so good, and promising turned to crap in a hurry.  So be forewarned.

 

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Good news in this section of this issue.  The US government has removed flying with masks and CV19 testing for intl returns to this country.  See below article.  Proof of vaccination status or testing is no longer required for USA citizens returning to US from international locations:  

 

https://www.voanews.com/a/us-lifts-covid-19-test-requirement-for-international-travel-/6614463.html

 

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“GET ME THERE” (New NonRev TravelNet Tool)

 

New 'Get Me There' feature shows additional routes for nonrev travel

Published Date 5/26/2022 3:30 PM



https://youtu.be/bIVhW6wGZ0s

Inspired by your feedback, we're excited to introduce the latest innovation for pass travelers. "Get Me There" is a new Travelnet search tool showing all routes between a selected origin and destination within 16 hours and sorts them by seat availability. For more flexibility, you can select the 'Nearby Airports' option for your origin or destination to search flights between all airports within a 50-mile radius of your desired location. 

Whether you'd like to improve your chances for an elusive open Delta One seat or are nonreving with your pass riders, "Get Me There" can help find lesser known (and less crowded) routes to your favorite destination.  

HOW TO USE "GET ME THERE" 

  • Specify an origin and destination city and select Both, From or To under "Nearby Options" to expand your search to other airports within 50 miles of your selected airports. This option can include flights outside of your usual cities. For example, if your favorite FLL-LAX route is full, "Nearby Options" will show you available seats on flights between MIA-SNA. 
  • Domestic flights will display connection times of 4 hours or less and international flights will display connection times of 12 hours or less. Both display a minimum connection time of 45 minutes.  
  • Results are sorted by total seat availability, first with nonstops then with connections. When total number of seats are equal, flights will be prioritized by seats available on the connection flight to reduce risk of not making it to your final destination. 
  • Be mindful of summer flight loads and how they will impact nonrev seat availability. Be aware of alternate flights to avoid getting stuck or consider purchasing a confirmed seat through Fly Confirmed for Less

We know your travel privileges are important to you, and we look forward to sharing more additions to the nonrev travel experience based on employee feedback in the coming months. Your input has driven the development of previous features including mobile check-in for nonrev travel, Go Anywhere and Fly Confirmed for Less. 

"This feature is a direct result of feedback from employees on ways we can make travel privileges even more valuable and user-friendly," said Greg Tahvonen, V.P. of Global HR Service Delivery."We are thrilled that it will be available for employees as we all navigate the busiest travel season." 

As we begin a very busy summer season, take a moment to refresh yourself on pass rider rules and "jettiquete": 

1.Pack your manners:Remember to be kind to your colleagues and other passengers when traveling. Be patient, be respectful and never list yourself for more than one flight at a time. Be sure to remove yourself from a listing as well if your plans change. Take some time to remind yourself ofwhat to expect when you're pass riding

2. Rememberyourflight benefitscan'tbe usedforpersonal profit orbusiness:Pass travelisintendedfor leisure or personal travel,unless you are traveling on Delta company business.You as the employee are responsible for the actions of your pass riders while traveling, and should only provide Buddy Passes to people you know.  

3. Fly Confirmed For Less: There are no change or cancellation fees on any tickets purchased throughFly Confirmed for Less Discount Programs. Don't forget: this also includes the removal of the change/cancellation fee for Employee Award Travel positive space passes.

If you would like to learn more about pass travel, visit theTravel page on Deltanet.  

*This new search tool is available on the desktop and mobile-browser version of TravelNet. 

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DAL Retirees normally S3B priority but you can use your 6 days of S3A Priority, see below:

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Our trip July Trip to London – LONDON ON A SHOESTRING!

Hey PCN, we just returned from an international non-rev trip to London and here is how it went: 

Barb and I have been planning an international getaway for a while and with the lower infections rates (in June) and the loosening of restrictions our choice came down to the UK and London.  We wanted to visit for around a week, budget on a shoestring, do no driving (on wrong side of the road), and spend $0 for flights and hotels.  How did that go?  Well, actually in the end, we pretty closely met all of our goals. 

Flights: we carefully and I am sorry to say VERY CAREFULLY selected flights so that we would not be disappointed and we traveled on retiree high priority of S3A (we all have 6 travel days of this priority per year and we used 2 of them).  Retirees are normally S3B as you know and the only thing the S3A does for you is put you ahead of other retirees who only use the S3B, which indeed I saw all the  time.  Using this retiree higher priority is like an active employee (which is usually S3)  selecting their limited S2 vacation priority, and believe me they almost all use this on tight flights.  Gateway? We selected DTW for outbound and were awarded Delta One in an A330 and that flight went very well.  For the return we were came under a 100K Heathrow outbound pax limit declared by the government, and it hurt big time.  3 days before departure we started to see the Delta flights canceling because of this rule and the non-rev rollover began to snowball into a tsunami.   Even with all of that, and the continual difficulty with HK’s, we chose an inbound to MSP and made it as likely the last two onboard.  And because it looked quite grim we booked a positive space on Virgin for $5200 on the next day (thru Delta.com) just in case with 24hr cancel ability.  With minutes before we took off on the non-rev trip we were able to cancel the $5200 flights for the next day with full refund.  Not only did we make it but we sat together in the 2 seat window row.  So over all, the flights worked and got us in both directions and as far as a dollar benefit goes over purchasing positive space, it was significant.  We did pay Delta a $384 international pass fee.

A word about HK’s:  Delta hands these standby coupons out to oversell and cancelled pax like candy.  They use them for max effect on the Delta system on many many international flights.  All HK’s board the plane BEFORE non-revs in coach, but the worst HK is the HK1’s because they board the premium classes BEFORE non-revs.  What is our frustration? Well, two things.  That these inconvenienced pax are prioritized ahead of us, but the other thing that really frustrates us is not knowing the amount of HK’s on the flight until flight day.  The don’t show up on listed, checked in, or assigned a seat until around 24 hrs before the flight.  Now a group of HK’s swarming your intended flight can RUIN YOUR WHOLE DAY!  So what did I do?  Well, in all honesty it is a crap shoot.  But generally what I did was look at flights for which hubs historically has the most HK’s and on which days of the weeks it is worse.  Once I determine which flight runs lower in HK’s on board, then I can concentrate on the listed employee non-revs that can give you a headache. 

Hotels:  I have significant points on Hilton and IHG and so we booked hotels (very nice ones by the way) on points.  We stayed at the London Tower Double Tree, that gave Diamond members a free room upgrade with fabulous views, free breakfast, and open bar lounge in their Executive lounge every night. Back to dollars and sense, if you add up the benefit for room costs, free breakfasts and free evening drinks, then it soon becomes real money.   All hotels were booked with a liberal cancel policy of only 24hrs before for flexibility.  I also booked hotels just in case that one I cancelled and one we ate.

Transportation:  I chose not to rent a car and do ANY driving.  I do not trust my self in roundabouts that go the wrong way.  So Tour coaches, Ubers, and public transit was the way we went.  All tours were very nice comfortable buses or large vans.  Getting from LHR to downtown and back I chose Ubers which were very quick, efficient and half the price of a taxi.  (one could’ve use the train to LHR but hauling bags with you gets ugly)  And then for getting around the London boroughs, we employed every method of TFL trains, tubes, trams, water taxi, and dbl decker buses.  All these methods are paid for at location by a instant cashless contactless cards.  They want you to buy an “Oyster” card and put money on the card but the problem with that is it is like buying gas ahead of time on a car rental, you usually buy too  much.  If you create an account with the TFL and “register” you contactless debit card it works exactly the same as an Oyster and worked for us flawlessly.  7 days of multiple times on various public transit added up to less than £65.30 for the 2 of us together.  So yes, this form of transit is economical and we loved the Tube when it was running because they often have work stoppages.

Tours:  So you want to do the Imperial War Museum (Free) and the Churchil War Rooms?  Well, take your wife to Highclere Castle on the Downton Abbey tour and she will let you spend that day.  We did 2 full day tours and 1 half day tour and enjoyed them all.  All tours were bought with a very liberal cancel policy for flexibility but because our flights worked out I did not have to cancel. 

Breakdown of London on a Shoestring

Item                                      Me                                         Wife                             Tips                               Net  $$

Delta Flights

192.30

192.30

 

384.60

Hotels IHG, Hilton

         0

        0

 

0

Taxi

         0

        0

 

0

Uber

51.82

76.60

9.57 + 15.04

153.03

TFL public transit

78.23

78.23

 

156.46

Restaurant

493.09

both

100

593.09

Grocery

50 est

both

 

50

2- full day Tours

$234.88 Leeds

319.82 Abbey

53.87

608.57

1-1/2 day tour

143.47 War Rm

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11.97

155.44

Admissions fees

62.91 Tower

38.21Kensington

 

101.12

Souvenirs

16.10 Abbey

87.17 Queen

24 for dbl dkr

127.27

 

 

 

TOTAL

$2329.58

 

 




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