From: David L. Roberts
Date: 10/26/2016 10:03:54 PM
To: MY DELTA FRIENDS
Subject: Delta's "Keeper of the History"
Hello all,
Let me introduce you to retired NE/DL Tech Ops Training Dept. Instructor Mr. Paul Talbott. He is very involved with the Delta Heritage Museum and with the history of all the aircraft on Delta's Family Tree. After reading his email below you will see what I mean. In his note he mentions Delta's Oldest Pilot, retired Captain Tony Gomez, who sadly passed away October 15, 2016. We need to interview our "seniors" while they're available as they have so much oral history that is rapidly disappearing.
He is searching for any information on Delta's early years and the early years of ALL the airlines on Delta's Family Tree. Please send an email to Paul at his address below with a description of anything at all that you think he might find useful. He can "surf" the archives of the Heritage Museum and determine if your items(s) are needed and how to get them to the museum.
He has attached below a list of all the aircraft that have been flown by Delta and the other airlines on Delta's Family Tree. You'll enjoy reviewing it...!!
All of you can be a HUGE help to the museum's collection and as many of us are down sizing, this is a great opportunity to save those historical items from the recycling bin.
Thank you for your assistance,
Dave
Let me introduce you to retired NE/DL Tech Ops Training Dept. Instructor Mr. Paul Talbott. He is very involved with the Delta Heritage Museum and with the history of all the aircraft on Delta's Family Tree. After reading his email below you will see what I mean. In his note he mentions Delta's Oldest Pilot, retired Captain Tony Gomez, who sadly passed away October 15, 2016. We need to interview our "seniors" while they're available as they have so much oral history that is rapidly disappearing.
He is searching for any information on Delta's early years and the early years of ALL the airlines on Delta's Family Tree. Please send an email to Paul at his address below with a description of anything at all that you think he might find useful. He can "surf" the archives of the Heritage Museum and determine if your items(s) are needed and how to get them to the museum.
He has attached below a list of all the aircraft that have been flown by Delta and the other airlines on Delta's Family Tree. You'll enjoy reviewing it...!!
All of you can be a HUGE help to the museum's collection and as many of us are down sizing, this is a great opportunity to save those historical items from the recycling bin.
Thank you for your assistance,
Dave
From: "Paul Talbott" gafarman@comcast.net
To: <robertsDL@mindspring.com>
Subject: RE: DELTA'S OLDEST LIVING PILOTS for 2016
Date: Wed, 21 Sep 2016 14:16:08 -0400
Dave,
Retired NEA/DAL Capt Norm Houle kindly forwarded your spread sheets to me, some names I recognized after my 35 years at Delta (1969-2005).
I worked ATL 250 (Line Mtc) for 25 years then spent the last 10 years in Tech Ops Training Dept.
Norm & I are both into the history of NEA and Delta, so he has been a big help in researching NEA’s history.
I am the “Keeper” of the aircraft history of the Delta aircraft fleet, and that of all the rest of the Delta “family” of airlines.
Attached is a list of all the aircraft (that I know of) that have been operated over the years by Delta and the “Family”, thought you might find it interesting.
I was fortunate enough to fly up to MEM in February with another Delta Flight Museum staff member and interview C&S/DAL Capt. Ed Waldo.
His memory about events is not what it used to be, but it was still great to hear him discuss his days at C&S.
He made DC-3 Captain a year after joining and retired several years early, when Delta sold off the original B-747 fleet.
His final flight was flying a PAA B-747 from IAD to ATL on the interchange run.
His grandson looks after his finances and general well being, and let us borrow Capt. Waldo’s original C&S logbook to copy, very interesting reading.
FYI – Capt Waldo’s wife Shirley is deceased.
Also had the pleasure of meeting ret C&S/DAL Capt Billy Scaggs at the Delta Museum where I am on staff as one of the B-737-200 sim operators.
Capt Scaggs was a member of the last C&S new hire class in 1952.
He retired on the L-1011, last flight FRA-ATL. He currently restores and flies antique aircraft out in Texas.
I had him take a flight in the museum 737 sim, and he did a perfect takeoff and landing!
Always great to see the old timers!
I passed your list onto Marie Force at the Delta Archives, I think they may contact some of the retirees on the list.
I was particularly interested in # 1 on the list, Tony Gomez, who was hired by Woodley, we have very little info on Woodley AW.
The archives is always interested in items from retired employees, we would appreciate it if you could spread the word.
Regards,
Paul Talbott
486 – RET
Delta Flt Museum Staff
Delta Archives Volunteer
120 Valley Bluff Drive
Fayetteville, GA 30215
770 597 1357 (Cell)
To: <robertsDL@mindspring.com>
Subject: RE: DELTA'S OLDEST LIVING PILOTS for 2016
Date: Wed, 21 Sep 2016 14:16:08 -0400
Dave,
Retired NEA/DAL Capt Norm Houle kindly forwarded your spread sheets to me, some names I recognized after my 35 years at Delta (1969-2005).
I worked ATL 250 (Line Mtc) for 25 years then spent the last 10 years in Tech Ops Training Dept.
Norm & I are both into the history of NEA and Delta, so he has been a big help in researching NEA’s history.
I am the “Keeper” of the aircraft history of the Delta aircraft fleet, and that of all the rest of the Delta “family” of airlines.
Attached is a list of all the aircraft (that I know of) that have been operated over the years by Delta and the “Family”, thought you might find it interesting.
I was fortunate enough to fly up to MEM in February with another Delta Flight Museum staff member and interview C&S/DAL Capt. Ed Waldo.
His memory about events is not what it used to be, but it was still great to hear him discuss his days at C&S.
He made DC-3 Captain a year after joining and retired several years early, when Delta sold off the original B-747 fleet.
His final flight was flying a PAA B-747 from IAD to ATL on the interchange run.
His grandson looks after his finances and general well being, and let us borrow Capt. Waldo’s original C&S logbook to copy, very interesting reading.
FYI – Capt Waldo’s wife Shirley is deceased.
Also had the pleasure of meeting ret C&S/DAL Capt Billy Scaggs at the Delta Museum where I am on staff as one of the B-737-200 sim operators.
Capt Scaggs was a member of the last C&S new hire class in 1952.
He retired on the L-1011, last flight FRA-ATL. He currently restores and flies antique aircraft out in Texas.
I had him take a flight in the museum 737 sim, and he did a perfect takeoff and landing!
Always great to see the old timers!
I passed your list onto Marie Force at the Delta Archives, I think they may contact some of the retirees on the list.
I was particularly interested in # 1 on the list, Tony Gomez, who was hired by Woodley, we have very little info on Woodley AW.
The archives is always interested in items from retired employees, we would appreciate it if you could spread the word.
Regards,
Paul Talbott
486 – RET
Delta Flt Museum Staff
Delta Archives Volunteer
120 Valley Bluff Drive
Fayetteville, GA 30215
770 597 1357 (Cell)
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Letter to Mr Bastian
From: LLRodammer@aol.com
Date: 10/26/2016 2:42:43 PM
Subject: RETIRED
DELTA PILOT PAY
HI MARK:
I HOPE ALL IS WELL WITH YOU. I CHECKED OUT
THE DELTA WEB SIGHT AND FOUND AN AREA WHERE IT ASKS YOU TO "ASK ED A
QUESTION," SO I DID. I'M NOT HOLDING MY BREATH FOR A RESPONSE, BUT I
COULDN'T LET THE OPPORTUNITY PASS.
BEST,
LARRY
From: LLRodammer@aol.com
To: asked@delta.com
Sent: 10/26/2016 2:12:20 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time
Subj: RETIRED DELTA PILOT PAY
To: asked@delta.com
Sent: 10/26/2016 2:12:20 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time
Subj: RETIRED DELTA PILOT PAY
10/26/2016
DEAR MR. ED BASTIAN:
CONGRADULATIONS ON YOUR PROMOTION TO
CEO!
I WAS WONDERING WHEN THE RETIRED DELTA PILOTS
WILL START GETTING THEIR FULL MONTHLY PAY CHECK AGAIN. IT'S BEEN OVER 11 YEARS
NOW SINCE WE GOT OUR LAST FULL MONTHLY PAY CHECK AND WE ARE OUT OF MONEY. WE
ARE HAPPY TO SEE THAT DELTA IS PROSPERING, BUT SADDENED THAT WE ARE NOT SHARING
IN THAT PROSPERITY.
AS YOU KNOW, WE WORKED OUR ENTIRE CAREER AT
DELTA AND WERE PROMISED THIS MONTHLY RETIREMENT PAY CHECK AS PART OF OUR PAY.
AS YOU KNOW, THE PROMISE WAS 60% OF OUR FINAL AVERAGE EARNINGS;
JUST LIKE EVERY OTHER DELTA EMLOYEE. ALL RETIRED NON DELTA
PILOT EMPLOYEES ARE STILL GETTING THEIR FULL PAY CHECKS EVERY MONTH.
NOW THAT THE CRISIS IS OVER, WOULDN'T IT BE
FAIR TO START PAYING THE RETIRED DELTA PILOTS THEIR FULL MONTHLY PAY AGAIN?
SEVERAL TIMES DURING MY 33 YEARS WITH DELTA, THE PILOTS TOOK PAY CUTS
AND EVEN HELPED BUY A B-767; BUT WHEN THE CRISIS WAS OVER, DELTA ALWAYS TOOK
CARE OF US AND REWARDED OUR SACRIFICE.
COULD YOU PLEASE FIND IT IN YOUR HEART TO
HELP THE RETIRED DELTA PILOTS BY AGAIN PAYING THEIR FULL MONTHLY PAY
CHECK; WHICH THEY EARNED HELPING BUILD THE GREATEST AIRLINE IN THE WORLD.
RESPECTFULLY,
CAPTAIN LARRY RODAMMER, RETIRED
954-817-4343
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Contract 2015 AIP FAQ’s
16-04
October 27, 2016
In this issue:
Transatlantic JV (Corrected)
Profit Sharing
No changes to pilot payout calculation
Training
Sick Leave
Bona Fide Patient Relationship
“Doc in a Box” for Verification
Requirement to Verify
Verification After Becoming Well
No “Virtual” or online Doctor/QHCP
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Q. What happens if Delta announces a narrow body 757
"replacement" aircraft for international flying? How would this affect the international block
hour floor?
A. [CORRECTED] For purposes of the international block
hour floor in the Transatlantic Joint Venture
(TAJV) production balance, only widebody international
and B757 transatlantic flying is counted. Were the Company to replace the B757
with another narrowbody, any transatlantic flying performed by that other
narrowbody would not count toward the international block hour floor absent
future negotiated changes .
Q. Will our profit sharing be reduced as a result of our
pay increases and retro pay?
A. The Company’s pre-tax income, or PTIX, as that term is
defined in the PWA Section 3 A. 10., is reduced by the salaries and
compensation of pilots (and other employees). Since retro pay, totaling over
$450 million , constitutes salaries and compensation, it will reduce PTIX for
CY2016 versus what the Company’s PTIX would have otherwise been in the absence
of a new pilot agreement . This is no different than when other expenses
increase (e.g., rise in the cost of fuel; pay raises for non-contract
employees).
Q. I understand that our profit sharing is not changing
under the TA, but can you explain how pilot profit sharing is calculated?
A. The total pool of profit sharing is 10% of PTIX for
the first $2.5 billion and 20% of PTIX above that amount. For example, at an $8
billion PTIX , the profit sharing pool would be $1.35 billion ($250 million
attributable to the 10% on the first $2.5 billion of PTIX and $1.1 billion
attributable to the 20% on the remaining $5.5 billion in PTIX). The pilot
groups’ share of that pool is based on the pilots’ earnings for the year
relative to the earnings of all other non-management employees eligible for
profit sharing. Last year, the pilots’ share was 38.6%. If, in this example,
the pilots’ arnings represent 40% of the total earnings for all employees, the
pilots would collectively receive $540 million in profit sharing payout (i.e.,
40% of $1.35 billion). Due to profit sharing changes for the other employees,
their 60 % of total earnings is treated under a different formula. Each
individual pilot’s earnings for the year is computed as a percentage of the
earnings of all other employees (both pilots and non-contract employees) for
the entire profit sharing pool ($1.35 billion in the above example). That
profit sharing dollar amount is often referred to as a percentage of one’s pay,
which last year was about 21.5%. The language change in Section 3 I. does not
affect the profit sharing calculation and was simply to account for the
different profit sharing plan s for the pilots and the non-contract employees. Notwithstanding
the Company’s creation of a separate profit sharing plan for other employees,
the pilot group is not entitled to the entire profit sharing pool –under either
the tentative agreement or the current PWA.
Q. Why was Section 11 J. eliminated?
A. This provision
was established during the JCBA (DAL/NWA merger) and designed to address pilots
training at a location other than their pre-merger training location. This
would mean a former NWA pilot training in ATL or a DAL pilot training in MSP
could remove themselves from training up to the start of the ir LOE if they
felt pressured by the change in training venue. As one of the former training
centers is set to be demolished, and it has been seven years since the merger,
here is no longer the same need for this provision.
Q.
Why was “illness” changed to “sickness” throughout
Section 14?
A. “Sickness” is a defined term that means “any personal
medical condition of a pilot, physical or
mental, that disables him from performing duties as a
flight crewmember.” There is no definition for “illness” in the TA or the
current PWA. For consistency, the word “illness” was changed to “sickness.”
Q. What constitutes a “Bona Fide ” patient relationship as
used in the definition of doctor/QHCP? Why is that necessary?
A. The pilot must be examined and/or treated by the
medical professional in a manner consistent with his medical circumstances,
irrespective of the pilot’s relationship with that QHCP or doctor. A pilot’s
familial or social relationship with his doctor or QHCP does not preclude the
establishment of a bona fide patient relationship. Typical indications of
whether a bona fide relationship exists may include: medical records normally
kept in the course of treatment for any patient; the pilot normally sees the
QHCP or doctor professionally, absent any verification requirement; and the pilot’s
sickness is not inconsistent with the QHCP or doctor’s area of practice.
Q. Can I use Walmart or CVS Doc in a Box? What about my
spouse who is a doctor?
A. A pilot may use a Walmart or CVS “Doc in a Box” for
verification provided that he or she satisfies the definition of “doctor” or
“QHCP” as appropriate. Using a spouse who is a doctor for verification is
permitted provided there is a bona fide patient relationship. See question
above for an explanation of the bona fide patient relationship.
Q. What happens if I don't verify after I hit the
trigger? Is there an option to not verify and just not get paid for the trip?
A. No, the default is to pay. If you fail to provide
verification , you can be referred to your chief pilot.
Q. I've verified over 100 hours of sick leave so far this
year. What happens to that? Do I lose that verified time? Where does it state
when the look back will begin and how far it'll look back?
A. According to the Implementation MOU, #16-02, all sick
leave used, whether verified or unverified, prior to date of signing (planned
for December 1, 2016) , will not count toward any threshold.
Q. How does one
verify a sick occurrence after they are already well?
A. No differently than today. A pilot should describe his
prior symptoms to the doctor or QHCP, who will be providing the pilot with
verification. Such doctor/QHCP certificate is likely to indicate that the
patient is asymptomatic..
Q. Can a pilot use an online or “Virtual Doctor” – which
is now available from UHC –for verification?
A. No, not under this new sick leave verification
process.
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MEC ATL Roadshow for the new AIP:
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Re: PCN - Delta Open Enrollment Til
Nov 18th 9:39 AM (2 hours ago)
I watched the Road Show
video and learned so much! Thanks to all of you who look after us so well.
Especially grateful for the Health Advocate program.
Roger and Pat Ward
Roger and Pat Ward
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