The
ALPAWatch Newsletter
June 19, 2012
In this Issue...
- The Tentative
agreement vote
- Links to Pro and
Con papers
In Upcoming Issues...
- The Back Story on
this TA
The
C2012 Tentative Agreement Vote
The objective of this ALPAWatch Newsletter is to provide fair, unbiased information to help you cast an informed vote.
ALPAWatch is not making a YES or NO recommendation. We don’t
have any better factual information than you do. We do have information about
how the TA came about, but that has nothing to do with the facts of the TA. We
will save that for another ALPAWatch Newsletter, after the vote.
Each of you must come to your own conclusion based on the merits
of what is in front you. To help we have brought the most creditable arguments
to you, here in one easy to use location.
Please look at this information carefully, and cast an informed vote!
The Pros and Cons
To give you the best presentation of the pros and cons we are providing links to existing papers.
To give you the best presentation of the pros and cons we are providing links to existing papers.
The pro papers are best represented by the Negotiators Notepads
that have been published by the MEC. The Notepads are factual but also qualify
as pro papers because the papers include a strong endorsement for a vote in
favor of ratification. You have access to these through alpa.org, but just in case we made them available here.
The 4 con papers are from the 5 LEC reps that voted NO on the TA
(the vote was 14-5). While there are many more NO vote papers out there, these
4 come from the most credible sources and cover the contrary points presented
in most of the vote NO papers.
The Pros are listed in the order they published.
The Cons are listed in order of most useful (ALPAWatch opinion).
First is the Council 54 (SEA) Vice-Chairman’s evaluation which goes into the
most detail. Next is the Council 20 (DTW) Chairman’s evaluation which does a
good job grading the TA, section by section, and near the end are his overall
reasons for voting NO.
The links below will be updated as necessary up until the close
of voting.
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Pros
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Cons
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** June 22 DAL Council 20 Update, Q & A |
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** Recent Updates
Please study this information carefully and cast an informed vote!
If you change your mind, you can change your vote. Only your
last vote counts.
Thank
you again for participating in ALPAWatch. With the participation of pilots such
as you, ALPAWatch will be successful in obtaining the Union Leadership that the
Pilot Group deserves, and in doing so regain our fair compensation, our quality
of life, our future, and our dignity.
ALPAWatch.org
ALPAWatch.org
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From: Gene Hall
Date: 6/18/2012 10:43:16 AM
Subject:
New Delta Plane
I shot this picture out the window of my SUV while doing the
speed limit on I-75 on Atlanta's north side. It is Delta's newest - so new that
it has not been announced. It was early yesterday (Sunday) morning, and I was
curious enough to ask around. They haven't announced it yet, because they are
still negotiating with the pilots. It's all about fuel cost. The plan is to
introduce it on the GPT-ATL route. It will get 60 miles per gallon, and will
carry 2 passengers, and a crew of
2 . The co-pilot will also double as flight attendant, and
gate agent.
My inside informant spoke off the record, but he has been
reliable in the past. The flying time to cover the 360 miles between Gulfport
and Atlanta will be 4 hours, but the fares will be the lowest on the route, and
the fuel burn - depending on congestion, weather, etc. - should be less than 7
gallons.
The announcement is being delayed because the pilot
negotiations are at a critical stage. The company and pilots have agreed on
everything except pilot height limits. There must be a limit, and the parties
are still 8 inches apart. The company opener position was little people -
politically correct term for midget - and the pilots were at 5 feet 8 inches.
Non reving is going to be a problem people!
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From: Denis Waldron
Date: 6/16/2012 11:31:54 AM
To: Mark Sztanyo
Subject: Delta
phishing/email warning
FYI- I recently saw a warning from Delta that there has been
some phishing/bogus emails not sent from them, but made to appear so. This week
I got this from my Internet Service Provider: "A virus was detected in a
message sent to your email address. For your protection, the message containing
the virus was not delivered to your inbox."
Envelope Sender: aa.support155@delta.com
Detected Virus: "Virus:Trojan.GenericFD.3208"
I have good virus, malware, and adware protection that probably would have caught it, too.
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From: Jim McCloskey <mccloskey@windstream.net>
Date: June 13, 2012 7:23:33 AM EDT
To: <misc@pilotcommunication.net>
Subject: Average age of pilot deaths
Date: June 13, 2012 7:23:33 AM EDT
To: <misc@pilotcommunication.net>
Subject: Average age of pilot deaths
Dave,
What is the average age of pilot deaths? I suspect it's in
the mid 70s. Charlotte and I will not make the Pig Pull this year. Have a toddy
for us. We're still holding down the fort in Big Canoe.
Jim (Mac) McCloskey
From: "David L. Roberts" <robertsdl@mindspring.com>
Date: Jun 20, 2012 9:41 AM
Subject: Re: Average age of pilot deaths
To: "Mark Sztanyo" <marksztanyo@gmail.com>, "Mccloskey Jim" <mccloskey@windstream.net>
Hi gents,
Date: Jun 20, 2012 9:41 AM
Subject: Re: Average age of pilot deaths
To: "Mark Sztanyo" <marksztanyo@gmail.com>, "Mccloskey Jim" <mccloskey@windstream.net>
Hi gents,
There are 2101 known ages of death on my Deceased Delta
Pilots & Spouses list, and the average
age at death is 66.90. This does include spouses in the average.
Regards,
Dave
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From: George Chaudoin
Date: 6/12/2012 4:19:50 PM
Subject: Grady
Fly-In support
Folks,
The Grady Fly-In was a great success. Name change is because
Dave Hancock suggested we honor Bill Grady for his service to use over the last
20 years.
The support of everyone with $$$ have been very good. We now
have a slush fund for Henry for the fall Gray Fly-In and many more, if the WX
will just give us a break.
Sorry we did not come with the support a few years ago, Bill
would have enjoyed knowing we supported his effort over the years.
What do you think is a fair contribution for the coffee can
as we move forward?
Thanks,
George
On The Green Side
George
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