From: Jim
Horan
Date: 6/14/2012 2:52:40 PM
To: 'Mark Sztanyo'
Subject: Another Finance Item
Hi
Mark:
Her
very honest reply is below. As she said, unless we had someone outside the
audit (Delta or ALPA) to help us out, we basically have no chance.
Jim
Horan
P.O.
Box 7480
2165B
Saddle Ridge Loop
Avon,
CO 81620
970-845-7922
From: Merrily Whalen [mailto:Merrily3@cox.net]
Sent: Thursday, June 14, 2012 12:25 PM
To: 'Jim Horan'
Subject: RE: Inquiry
Sent: Thursday, June 14, 2012 12:25 PM
To: 'Jim Horan'
Subject: RE: Inquiry
Jim,
Thank you for your
kind thoughts of my abilities to refer others to me. If I thought the 843 issue
could be won at this point I would accept, however, the position the IRS has
taken is that they are going to fight it out in court. There are never any
winners in a court action . . . especially against someone with deep pockets
(that extend into yours). A lawsuit would be very expensive and maybe as much
as the original fee you all paid Bill. Without the cooperation of someone
outside the audit (Delta or the union) the argument the IRS makes has case law
on their side. The ONLY way this case can be won is if it can successfully be
argued that this was in fact a payment for a ‘breach of contract.’ That is
actually what it was, but with a bankruptcy involved it becomes a ‘grey’ area.
The IRS will not even allow the 843 claims to those guys who got their 1040X
refunds. To top it off, and what bothers me is that the IRS drafted the new
2012 IRA legislation to treat the payments from airlines in bankruptcy the way
they outlined gives their “intent” argument mountains of validity. They are
re-writing and shoring up their argument. You have to realize that there are
potentially millions of dollars of refunds of claims involved. Do the math.
This is what got their attention and you know our government is bankrupt and
what chance do you think there will be to get those funds if they don’t want to
pay them?
Your friendship
has been appreciated and thanks again,
Merrily
From: Jim Horan [mailto:Vailmtneer@comcast.net]
Sent: Wednesday, June 13, 2012 1:01 PM
To: merrily3@cox.net
Subject: Inquiry
Sent: Wednesday, June 13, 2012 1:01 PM
To: merrily3@cox.net
Subject: Inquiry
Your
email to me which I forwarded on to the Pilot Communication Network (with your
permission) has not been published yet, but I have already received one phone
call (from a former Western pilot who was successful with the 1040X but not the
843).
Here’s
the inquiry: Would you be willing to undertake the huge task of
representing the pilots who have been denied either or both filings with the
IRS?
I
know a fee schedule would have to be worked out and a lot of other details, but
I am sure this question is going to be bantered about by a lot of pilots.
Specifically, who is qualified to take on this task. I believe with your IRS
experience and being certified as a CPA certainly makes you a prime candidate.
That
question has not come up yet (meaning who is qualified) but I thought I would
run it by you. I know you have archived a lot of email from pilots who sought
Bill’s representation. So at least you have a data base of some of those
pilots.
Let
me know your thoughts.
Jim
Horan
P.O.
Box 7480
2165B
Saddle Ridge Loop
Avon,
CO 81620
970-845-7922
(H)
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