Travel / Non - Revving - HL 338 (3)

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Non Rev experience perfect storm. 

I have had some wonderful experiences non-revving.  I have also had some bummers. Barb and I were looking for a brief little adventure so we chose to visit LAS before it got hot.  So nonrev nonstop from CVG was fine.  Coming back on a Sat was a totally different affair.  The singular non-stop was a redeye and it was oversold.  So now it means we have to go through a hub, and ATL was our best of  some pretty bad options. 

By the time we made ATL we were hearing about FL WX canceling a lot of flights.  We were also seeing that crews were not available to fly various airline schedules and on top of all that it was the end of many Spring breakers get-a-way with their efforts to fly back home.  A perfect storm of sorts.  We got into ATL shortly after noon.  Every flight to CVG and to any of over 10 possible intermediate options was a no go.  Then comes Sunday.  The same.  Now I am not a novice non-revver.  I have been doing it awhile and usually can find an avenue to work.  But not this time.  Every city out of ATL on every flight for Sat aftn, all day Sun and Mon were impossible. 

Solution, rent a one-way vehicle from a car agency and drive.  Problem:  Every other stranded overnighting bumped passenger attempted to do the same thing.  No cars available.  WHAT?  NO CARS?  After a lot of looking and trying to book (note; mostly online since many agencies have done away with human reservations) I finally got a reservation to take with Hertz.  While I wasn’t very sure of its validity, we showed up on Mon morn and there were 2 cars on the lot in the entire Hertz parking garage.  We were given one of the.  Don’t stop to question or delay, just hop in and drive.  Yes, 8 hrs later we were back in lovely Florence, KY.  A non-rev must be flexible, but I swear, if I have to stay this flexible that benefit may just sit on the shelf. 

If you haven’t tried this activity for awhile, there certainly has been some changes.  And a big one is the way categories of Standby passenger have evolved and exponentially grown.  See the following sections for more on this.  In the meantime, Barb and I will not stop traveling but the F150 is looking more and more like my faithful steed. 

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Non-Rev Question

Hi Mark,  I have a Non Rev question. 

After several years my wife and I non reved for the first time this past weekend.  I used one of the "6" days of "S3A" passes that we get.  I guess I misunderstood what an "S3A" pass was.   In other words, when I looked at the nonrev list we, with a new hire date of 1978, where ahead of 3 other retired with new hire dates in the late 80's and behind 3 current employees with new hire dates in the 2010"s.

So, I "checked in" using "S3A"....The "airport active list" still showed us behind the active employees with new hire dates of 2010 and still ahead of the retired late 1980's.

My retired friends at United say they can non rev and the boarding list is according to new hire date no matter your status.

So, my question is just what kind of "priority" does a "S3A" give us?  If you are a senior retiree, is it a mote point?

Thank you very much "Mother" Delta.

Sincerely,  David W. Skjerven

Editor: David, I’m out in Vegas right now and will hopefully be non-revving tonight back home.(see above perfect storm…..didn’t make it)   I've your question and will address in depth in next High Life but for now I'm listed on flt with regular S3B. But I attached a airport stby list so you can see that active employees are S3.   That makes them one priority above S3A.   Which is why I didn't waste our higher priority of S3A, since it wouldn't have helped us.   As retirees, the S3A helps buy really only mostly over other retirees who don't have am older seniority and used their higher priority.  

Now allow me to publish the description of the ever growing and evolving categories of standby flyers. If you haven’t non-revved for a while you need to not only understand how all the many categories of employee/retiree impact you, but also the HK’s this group of non-revs often ruin your whole travel plans.  Here is a quick explanation of HK’s that should help:

 

Standby Priority Codes – (Highlighted special interest and Mark’s Comments are lower case).

Rank	Code	Type	ELIGIBILITY
1	HKIF	RS	HKI (IROP) FIRST OR DELTA ONE/BUSINESS CABIN
2	HKIG	RS	HKIF CONTINUED
3	HKIH	RS	HKIF CONTINUED
4	HKIW	RS	HKI (IROP) COMFORT PLUS
5	HKIX	RS	HKIW CONTINUED
6	HKIY	RS	HKIW CONTINUED
7	HKF	RS	HK FIRST OR DELTA ONE/BUSINESS CABIN
8	HKFA	RS	HKF CONTINUED
9	HKFB	RS	HKF CONTINUED
10	HKM	RS	SAME AS HK ONLY DM/PM/GM
11	HKI	RS	CONFIRMED CUSTOMER AFFECTED BY AN IROP AND AWAITING A SEAT ASGNMENT.
12	HKIA	RS	HKI CONTINUED
13	HKIB	RS	HKI CONTINUED
14	HKW	RS	HK IN COMFORT PLUS
15	HKWA	RS	HKW CONTINUED
16	HKWB	RS	HKW CONTINUED
17	HK	RS	CONFIRMED REVENUE CUSTOMERS AWAITING A SEAT ASSIGNMENT. THE AMOUNT OF (SEATS NOT ASSIGNED) ON THE AIRPORT STANDBY LIST WILL REDUCE ONCE THEY ARE GIVEN SEATS. (These HK’s on the list will board coach ahead of any non-rev, but not in Comfort or First. Becarful though because other HK’s like HKW will board coach or Comfort and still other HK’s like HKF will board First all before any non-rev)
18	HKA	RS	HK CONTINUED
19	HKB	RS	HK CONTINUED
20	UP1	RS	CUSTOMERS ON SELECT FIRST OR DELTA ONE/BUSINESS CLASS FARES INCLUDING REDEEMED AWARD TKTS BUT ARE NOT CONFIRMED IN THE FORWARD CABIN AND DESIRING AN UPGRADE
21	UP11	RS	UP1 CONTINUED
22	UP12	RS	UP1 CONTINUED
23	UP2	RS	CUSTOMERS ON COMFORT PLUS FARES INCLUDING REDEEMED AWARD TICKETS BUT NOT CFMD IN COMFORT PLUS DESIRING AN UPGRADE
24	UP21	RS	UP2 CONTINUED
25	UP22	RS	UP2 CONTINUED
26	UP2A	RS	GLOBAL/REGIONAL UPGRADE CERT
27	UP2W	RS	GLOBAL/REGIONAL UPGRADE CERT TO COMFORT PLUS
28	UPGR	RS	DELTA DM/PM/GM/FO OR DL MEDALLION COMPANIONS OR DL CROSSOVER OR ELIGIBLE OA ELITE DESIRING COMPLIMENTARY MEDALLION UPGRADE
29	UPCW	RS	COMPLIMENTARY MEDALLION UPGRADE TO COMFORT PLUS
30	UP6	RS	AM ELITE OR SKYTEAM ELITE AND ELITE PLUS DESIRING COMPLIMENTARY MEDALLION UPGRADE TO FIRST/DELTA ONE/BUSINESS CLASS
31	UP6W	RS	INACTIVE - FOR FUTURE USE
32	SBUP	RS	*PAID STBY UPGRADE PROGRAM* *YBMHQK FARES-ALL ELIGIBLE MARKETS*LUT FARES PERMITTED TO/FRM HAWAIISEE KM: STANDBY UPGRADE *CREDIT CARD ONLY *AGENT ENTRY: SB*SBUP
33	UP8	RS	CUSTOMER CONFIRMED ON E-CERT TKT IN MAIN CABIN - AUTHORIZED FOR COMPLIMENTARY UPGRADE TO FIRST OR DELTA ONE/BUSINESS PER DL TRAVEL AGREEMENT
34	UP8W	RS	UP8 TO COMFORT PLUS
35	PSUP	PS	ANY/ALL PS/PSY - DL DELTA TECH/DCIAND OAL - COBUS PSGR/DEADHEAD CREW/PSGR WTH TKT DESIG FR958/ /EMPLOYEE AWARD TRVL CFMD IN Y DESIRING AN UPGRADE *USE TODAYS DATE AS DOE FOR OAL*
36	PSUW	PS	PSUP TO COMFORT PLUS
37	PSEP	PS	ENDEAVOR CREW DH UPGRADE TO FIRST/DPS/DELTA ONE
38	PSEW	PS	ENDEAVOR CREW DH TO COMFORT PLUS
39	A2	RS	PRIORITY STBY FOR INCONVENIENCED UMNR/DISABLED OR PSGR TVLG DUE TO FAMILY DEATH/EMERGENCY
40	B1F	RS	B1 FOR FIRST OR DELTA ONE/BUSINESS CABIN
41	B1FA	RS	B1F CONTINUED
42	B1FB	RS	B1F CONTINUED
43	B1W	RS	B1 FOR COMFORT PLUS
44	B1WA	RS	B1W CONTINUED
45	B1WB	RS	B1W CONTINUED
46	B1	RS	INCONVENIENCED OR MISHANDLED BY DL - INCLUDES DL OVERSALE/DESIRINGTHRU/MISCON/CXLD/MISCON FROM DL/OA FLT WITH CNFMD DL SPACE *USE C FOR NON-IROP/DBC EXCEPTIONS
47	B1A	RS	B1 CONTINUED
48	B1B	RS	B1 CONTINUED
49	SDSB	RS	SAME DAY CONFMD PROGRAM *DM/PM/GM* STBY ONLY BTWN ORG-DEST TRAVEL COMP/FAMILY MBRS-NOT ELIG NOT ALLOWED:CHG ORIG/DEST/CONX CTY/NON-STOP TO CONX/CO-TERMINAL. ALLOWED: CONX TO NONSTOP/SME CNX
50	SDSC	RS	ANY PSGR OTHER THAN DM/PM/GM WITH PAID STANDBY ELIGIBILITY
51	SDS1	RS	SDSC CONTINUED
52	SHYR	RS	*** SHUTTLE USE ONLY *** -SAME AS SHY ONLY DM/PM/GM/FO
53	SHY	RS	*** SHUTTLE USE ONLY *** -UNRESTRICTED Y AND R/N TICKETS -NON ELITES -STBY ONLY ON SHUTTLE FLTS WHEN UNABLE TO CONFIRM REQUESTED FLT -STBY ALLOWED FOR ANY DATE
54	PS	PS	DL EMPLOYEE COBUS/DEADHEAD CREW OR OAL WITH PS BOOKING BY INTERLINE DEPT -- NOT CONFIRMED ON FLIGHT DESIRING STANDBY FOR EARLIER/LATER FLIGHT
55	CF	RS	C FIRST OR DELTA ONE/BUSINESS CABIN
56	CW	RS	C FOR COMFORT PLUS
57	C	RS	FLAT TIRE STBY ALL EXCEPTION STBY FOR REVENUE PAXAND EMPLOYEE AWARD TRAVEL FOR DM/PM/GM USE SDSB
58	S1A	SA	EMERGENCY TVL FOR DL OR OA EMP AND/OR DEPENDENTS. USE PPR*NONE AND TODAYS DATE AS DOE FOR OAL. **FAMILY MEMBER TRAVELING TO DL FLIGHT ATTENDANT GRADUATION**
59	S1	SA	-DL COMPANY BUSINESS -DL RELOCATION -CERTIFIED TOURS COMPANY BUSINESS -DL CONX/SKYTEAM/OAL EMP ON COBUS *USE PPR*NONE AND TODAYS DATE AS DOE FOR OAL AND CERTIFIED TOURS*
60	S2	SA	(Delta Active Pilots get some of these priorities S2 y contract and using them usually shoots them to the top of the SBY list). SPRIORITY PASS TVL DL/FMR DL WSPN EMP. OAL BUSINESS TRVL. *USE PPR*NONE AND TODAYS DATE AS D.O.E. FOR OAL S2 TRAVEL*
61	S2B	SA	HONOR ROLL PASSES/DL SYSTEM ONLY -PMNW PERFECT ATTENDANCE -HOLIDAY PASS FOR WORKING CREW ON SPECIFIED DATES ONLY NOTE: CODESHARE/DL CONX FLTS NOT ALLOWED.
62	S3	SA	(This is Normal Delta Active priority and what is often why Retiree’s S3A doesn’t mean all that much) EMP/SP/DEP/DP/TC. -PARENTS OF SINGLE EMP FOR TRANSOCEANIC ONLY -PARENT OF EMPLOYEE TVLG W/EMPL -NONDEP ONLY W/EMP -ACTIVE DL ON DL/CP/YX/9E/G7 -ACTIVE DL CONX ON THEIR OWN FLTS
63	S3A	SA	(This is not Delta Active priority ONLY affiliate active and it is Retiree special 6 day priority) ACTIVE 9E AND DPJ ON DL/YX -DL RETIREES/SPOUSE/TVL COMPANION/DOMESIC PRTNR/DEPENDENT CHILDREN SURVIVORS AND THEIR PASS RIDERS
64	S3B	SA	(Normal Retiree priority) DL RETIREES AND THEIR PASS RIDERS DL NONDEP CHILDREN AND PARENTS EMPLOYEES ON DISABILITY PASS RIDERS OF EMP ON DISABILITY EARLY OUT PARTICIPANTS AND FURLOUGHS AND THEIR PASS RIDERS
65	S3B1	SA	ACTIVE DL ON OO -ACTIVE DL PARENT/NONDEPENDENT IF W/EMPLOYEE ON OO -ACTIVE DL PARENT/SGL EMP ON OO
66	S3C	SA	OO/YX/S5 ON MAINLINE FLIGHTS FOR EMPLOYEE/SPOUSE/CHILD -DGS EMP/SP/CHD ON DL/YX/9E/OO
67	S3CR	SA	DL PARENT/NONDEP CHD/FURLOUGH EMP/RETIREES TRVL ON OO -OH/9E PARENT/NONDEP CHD/RETIREES ON DL/YX/9E FLIGHTS
68	S3CV	SA	VS/AM EMPLOYEE/SP/CHD/PARENTS ON DL/YX/9E/OO
69	S3D	SA	SKYTEAM AF/AM/AR/AZ/KE/KL/KQ/ME/ OA/OK/RO/SU/UX/VA/WS -OAL MAY ONLY BE CLRD IN COACH IF COACH IS FULL-STBY ON NEXT FLT-DGS RETIREE ON DL/YX/9E -OH/9E NDP-PARENT-RETIREE ON OO
70	S4	SA	OAL ZED/ID75-90*CLRD IN Y-CLS ONLY-DL BUDDY PASS RIDERS -DGS/RP/S5/9E RETIREES/PARENTS ON ALL FLIGHTS *USE TODAY AS DOE DGS/CONX PARENTS AND RETIREES/OAL EMPLOYEES
71	S4B	SA	-FORMER PAN AM PARTICIPANTS NOT EMPLOYED BY DELTA WHO ARE ELIGIBLEFOR PASSES
72	JSA	SA	FLOWBACK JUMPSEAT PRIORITY FOR OALCREW WHEN PROCESSED WITH PJS* OAL FLOWBACK MAY BE SEATED IN THE MAIN CABIN ONLY

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