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Sunday, February 18, 2018

Good Read / Deal - HL 287 (2)

Good Deals – Delta Perks – Still available to retirees
There is a whole section of the DeltaNet that is dedicated to “Perks” which really amounts to employee discounts with various companies.  As a retiree you still have most of these Perks available to you.  To find the Delta Perks section of the DeltaNet login then click on HR>Benefits>(then L Column) Perks & Discounts

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This Vietnam Series an opinion piece and wasn’t published in HL 286 to spur controversy or to be political.  Whether you agree with Terry or not he definitely has a point about revisionist history.  I did get a couple of responses from JP and David.  JP makes a couple of valid points but also gets political so just take that part for what it is. 

Subject: Propagandists masquerading as historians
Terry Garlock lives in Peachtree City, GA. He was a Cobra helicopter gunship pilot in the Vietnam War.                                   Text of story published in HL 286.

Date: 2/5/2018 7:07:38 PM
To: marksztanyo
Subject: BS Flag

Mark,
Before printing this crap you might want to check facts...like who was President and who didn’t fulfill the Nixon/Kissinger's “peace with honor” agreement at Paris.
 Here is my reply to a friend who forwarded this crap:
 Who died and appointed this guy a qualified Historian?
 High School to Flight School Gunship Driver?   Nope...another BS statement circulated by the Anti-Everything Committee.
 Was the Burns Novick perfect?  Nope
 But it had a lot of facts never before revealed that made it worthwhile.
 Will anyone ever get the VN War right? Nope
 It was 5 or 6 continuous wars fought simultaneously over 10 years as an extention of French occupancy for a hundred years or more.
 Talk about inaccurate....”you left out vital pieces of the story. In 1974, in the aftermath of Watergate, Democrats were elected in a landslide and the new Congress violated America’s promise by cutting off funding for South Vietnam’s self-defense. Then when the Communists attacked South Vietnam in massive force, Congress refused to honor America’s pledge to come to their aid. “
FACT:      Gerald Rudolph Ford Jr. was an American politician who served as the 38th President of the United States from August 1974 to January 1977.
President Ford and the Republican Congress REFUSED to commit B-52 strikes in 1974 and 75 that led to the eventual overthrow of South Vietnam. (The Democrats didn’t take over until the electons of November 1975 and Carter in the 1977 elections.)
 In other words..this is just another BS email meant to rewrite history as if a real vet who was there is telling you young folks in the Anti- whatever (Nazi) movement that the Democrats...who started the Vietnam War....are a bunch of nitwits.
 Wish you would read this crap before forwarding the lies and deceit it represents to the world!
Maybe our world would be far more peaceful if truth and fact was more important than “MAGA” BS!

JP Doyle
Capt., Delta Air Lines Retired
Former USAF FAC attached to 5th Special Forces, Co. D, B-41 69-70.
DFC, AM w/10 OLC, VN Cross of Gallantry (2) w/Bronze Star, PUC, AFOUC w/V, VN Campaign Medal w/3 Stars, and One Rufused Purple Heart. (Never accept a Purple Heart that doesn’t send you home immediately...definitely BAD LUCK!)


 
Picture Enclosed: I’m far left...Pilot in Flight Suit was Maj. Ken Hamrick...my boss that was killed a week after this picture was taken.

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Date: 02/06/18 16:39:31
Subject: Vietnam Series

    For those of you that missed the Delta Pilot's PCN-HC286 here is a very interesting article about the Vietnam Series that was recently on PBS.   I watched it all and something about it bothered me.  Maybe this was it.  Anyway, I thank Mark and the PCN people for putting this out there.
David W. Skjerven :  


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This B17 story has been shared before but never with as much background info.  Wow!
Date: 2/8/2018 9:40:46 PM
To: marksztanyo
Subject: Fwd: A TRUE MIRACLE

FYI, A TRUE MIRACLE
This is really some story.  Without the pictures, no one would believe it.




A real miracle - from WWII
B-17 "All American" (414th Squadron, 97BG) Crew
Pilot- Ken Bragg Jr.
Co-pilot- G. Boyd Jr.
Navigator- Harry C. Nuessle
Bombardier- Ralph Burbridge
Engineer- Joe C. James
Radio Operator- Paul A. Galloway
Ball Turret Gunner- Elton Conda
Waist Gunner- Michael Zuk
Tail Gunner- Sam T. Sarpolus
Ground Crew Chief- Hank Hyland


In 1943 a mid-air collision on February 1, 1943,
Between a B-17 and a German fighter over the Tunis dock area,
Became the subject of one of the most famous photographs of WW II.
An enemy fighter attacking a 97th Bomb Group formation went out of control,
Probably with a wounded pilot, then continued its crashing descent
Into the rear of the fuselage of a Flying Fortress named"All American",
Piloted by Lt. Kendrick R. Bragg, of the 414th Bomb Squadron.
When it struck, the fighter broke apart, but left some pieces in the B-17.
The left horizontal stabilizer of the Fortress and left elevator were completely torn away.
The two right engines were out and one on the left had a serious oil pump leak.
The vertical fin and the rudder had been damaged,
The fuselage had been cut almost completely through
Connected only at two small parts of the frame,
And the radios, electrical and oxygen systems were damaged.
There was also a hole in the top that was over 16-feet long and 4 feet wide at its widest;
The split in the fuselage went all the way to the top gunner's turret.



Although the tail actually bounced and swayed in the wind
And twisted when the plane turned and all the control cables were severed,
Except one single elevator cable still worked, and the aircraft miraculously still flew!
The tail gunner was trapped because there was no floor connecting the tail to the rest of the plane.
The waist and tail gunners used parts of the German fighter and their own parachute harnesses
In an attempt to keep the tail from ripping off and the two sides of the fuselage from splitting apart.
While the crew was trying to keep the bomber from coming apart,
The pilot continued on his bomb run and released his bombs over the target.


When the bomb bay doors were opened,
The wind turbulence was so great that it blew one of the waist gunners into the broken tail section
It took several minutes and four crew members to pass him ropes from parachutes
And haul him back into the forward part of the plane.
When they tried to do the same for the tail gunner,
The tail began flapping so hard that it began to break off.
The weight of the gunner was adding some stability to the tail section, so he went back to his position.
The turn back toward England had to be very slow to keep the tail from twisting off.
They actually covered almost 70 miles to make the turn home.
The bomber was so badly damaged that it was losing altitude and speed and was soon alone in the sky.
For a brief time, two more Me-109 German fighters attacked the All American.


Despite the extensive damage, all of the machine gunners
Were able to respond to these attacks and soon drove off the fighters.
The two waist gunners stood up with their heads sticking out through the hole in the top of the fuselage
To aim and fire their machine guns.
The tail gunner had to shoot in short bursts because the recoil was actually causing the plane to turn.



Allied P-51 fighters intercepted the All American as it crossed over the Channel
And took one of the pictures shown.
They also radioed to the base describing that the appendage was waving like a fish tail
And that the plane would not make it and to send out boats to rescue the crew when they bailed out.
The fighters stayed with the Fortress, taking hand signals from Lt. Bragg and relaying them to the base.
Lt. Bragg signaled that 5 parachutes and the spare had been "used"
So five of the crew could not bail out.
He made the decision that if they could not bail out safely, then he would stay with the plane to land it.

Two and a half hours after being hit, the aircraft made its final turn
To line up with the runway while it was still over 40 miles away.
It descended into an emergency landing and a normal roll-out on its landing gear



When the ambulance pulled alongside, it was waved off because not a single member of the crew had
Been injured.
No one could believe that the aircraft could still fly in such a condition.
The Fortress sat placidly until the crew all exited through the door in the fuselage
and the tail gunner had climbed down a ladder,
at which time the entire rear section of the aircraft collapsed.

This old bird had done its job and brought the entire crew home uninjured.
 Please pass this on to someone who will also appreciate this amazing story.

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