From: Yorkieatl@aol.com
Date: 10/11/2016 5:52:36 PM
Subject: Anderson
retiring from Delta board of directors; Francis S. Blake named ...
Anderson retiring from Delta board of directors; Francis S. Blake named non-executive chairman
The Board of Directors of Delta announced
today that Richard H. Anderson has elected to retire as executive chairman
effective this date. Francis S. “Frank” Blake, who has been lead director
since May 2016, will succeed Anderson as Delta’s non-executive chairman. Blake,
the former Chairman and CEO of The Home Depot, joined Delta’s board in July
2014.
Anderson (right) served on Delta’s board for nearly a decade, becoming a director in April 2007 when the airline emerged from bankruptcy. He was appointed Delta’s CEO in August 2007, and was elevated to executive chairman in May 2016 as he retired as CEO.
“Under Richard’s leadership, Delta people
established themselves as leaders in reliability, customer service and
financial performance,” Blake said. “His years of service to Delta established
a legacy of unmatched dedication to our customers, employees, investors and the
communities we serve. He is one of the great leaders in global aviation, and we
wish him well.”
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Reaction
to Active Pilot’s AIP:
Re: PCN - NEWS: Delta Active Pilots Reach Tentative AIP
I didn't see
anything about pension relief for the retired pilots.
Aubrey Hair
Editor: Nor will you!
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From: jimmy honeycutt
Date: 10/3/2016 8:43:49 PM
Subject: Retirement?
Mark:
I suppose
there is nothing in the agreement that would give us retirees something?
Captain
Jimmy
Editor: Captain, you are
right about that.
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Jack jackh30457@planttel.net
Re: PCN
- NEWS: Delta Active Pilots Reach Tentative AIP
The active pilots and ALPA turned their backs on us
retired pilots, so I could care less what they are now getting on the backs of
us retired pilots. Jack Hollister/Ret.
767 Capt.
Editor: I understand
your sentiment, but it is news none-the-less.
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Is there a website to preview Museum Surplus sale items ?
Editor: Well, the museum has
a website, and sales items are sometimes
listed there.
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Posts
on the movie, “Sully”
From: THFoster6@aol.com
Date: 9/24/2016 2:44:43 PM
Subject: Fwd: Fw: Miracle approach - Chart
A little "Tongue-in Cheek" from our friends at Jeppeson.
Well done, Sully!
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From: David L. Roberts
Date: 10/5/2016 8:27:27 PM
Subject: Very interesting commentary on the
movie Sully
These
comments about the EXTRA scenes that were put into the movie that never
happened in real life are disappointing. See for yourself.
Dave
Dave
A very sad
commentary on the movie industry, but no surprise.
This from an old Boeing 747 Captain
and close friend of over 55 years. I feel bad
for the guys at NTSB, where I once
sought employment after I retired from the Navy.
I was hired for a low-level job,
but didn't take if because it would have required a move
cross country. Maybe a good thing
because I took a teaching job shortly thereafter, which I loved.
But I saw the movie yesterday, and
I loved it.
Bob
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CLINT EASTWOOD V. NTSB
The $65 Million Misunderstanding
By Roger Rapoport
Flight Safety Information
Contributing Editor
Until I read the script, I didn't
know the investigative board (NTSB) was trying to paint the picture that he had
done the wrong thing. They were kind of railroading.
-Clint Eastwood in Promotional
Trailer for Sully
.
For those who are the focus on the
investigation, the intensity of it is immense (the process was) inherently
adversarial with professional reputations absolutely in the balance.
-Chesley Sullenberger, The New York
Times
By now we all know the story of the
January 15, 2009, US Airways Flight 1549. A flock of Canada geese, flying
above their assigned New York Terminal Control Area altitude, met their maker
inside the twin engines of an Airbus A320-214 piloted by Captain Chesley
Sullenberger and First Officer Jeff Skiles. Unable to return to base or an
alternate airport, the pilots correctly made an emergency landing on the Hudson
River. Final score, US Airways 155, Canada Geese 0.
.With $60 million in hand, getting
those facts right was no problem for Eastwood's production team. Unfortunately,
the public is now beginning to learn, there is a very good reason why it took
Eastwood nearly eight years to go beyond the true story and discover what no
one else knew, that the NTSB was trying to railroad Captain Sullenberger.
It turns out that events, dialogue
and key scenes in the film never happened. As the NTSB hearing links
below show, Eastwood has apparently succeeded in brainwashing himself with the
help of screenwriter Todd Komarnicki.
After an extensive analysis of the
wreckage and simulations of the flight conducted by accident investigators with
the cooperation of the airline, Airbus, the pilots, flight attendants, and
passengers, the National Transportation Safety Board convened a Washington D.C.
hearing on the event in June 2009. Chief Investigator Robert Benzon told
the board that after the bird strike:
"The captain soon concluded
that a landing in the river was the safest alternative available. During the
course of the investigation, flight simulations were conducted. These
flight simulations revealed that a successful return to LaGuardia or a
diversion to Teterboro (New Jersey) Airport was not assured."
In their human performance summary
of the accident, the NTSB's Dr. Katherine Wilson and Captain David Helson
praised Sullenberger and Skiles "excellent crew resource management."
NTSB Board Member Robert Sumwalt, a
former US Airways Airbus 320, pilot thanked Sullenberger for "representing
the piloting profession as you do."
In May 2010 the NTSB's final
report, based on 20,000 hours of investigation, "validated the Captain's
decision to ditch into the Hudson River saying that it "provided the
highest probability that the accident would be survivable.
"Contributing to the
survivability of the accident was the crew resource management between the
captain and first officer, which allowed them to maintain control of the
airplane, increasing the survivability of the impact with the water."
In his memoir Highest Duty with
Jeffrey Zaslow, the basis for Eastwood's big money maker, Sullenberger
agrees. He writes that he was "buoyed by the fact that investigators
determined that Jeff (Skiles) and I made appropriate choices at every
step."
According to the NTSB no one on the
Eastwood/Warner Brothers production team bothered to do fact checking with the
federal agency. This appears to have been an oversight, considering that
NTSB officials spent years fighting for some of the key safety improvements and
procedures contributing to the survival of all 155 aboard flight 1549.
Screenwriter Komarnicki, perhaps
best known as the producer of Santa driven comedy elf, is celebrating Christmas
a bit early this year thanks to his ability to rewrite history and dramatize
incidents that never happened.
Warner Brothers damage control
experts, Eastwood, Sullenberger and Hanks can't explain why Komarnicki and
Eastwood's narrative invent a series of events that do not show up in the 560
page transcript of the NTSB's three day June 2009 hearing on Flight 1549.
It's hard to believe that Sullenberger who covers aviation stories for CBS and
is universally recognized as a white hat in aviation safety, would not have
caught these obvious and unforgivable mistakes in the script.
Eastwood's revisionism portrays
agency investigators as no nothing amateurs eager to smear the pilots.
The embarrassing and inexcusable factual errors begin when Hanks , playing
Sully, wakes a union rep insisting that he put in an early morning call to
Airbus in France.
The "nervous" US Airways
Captain wants the pilots in Toulouse to speed up simulations of the Flight 1549
landing pattern at LaGuardia and Teterboro. This phone call never happened nor
did Airbus pilots rush through the simulations portrayed in the film. In fact
this sequence never happened.
At the hearing, bullying NTSB
investigators (perhaps to avoid the possibility of libeling them, their names
have been changed) make the case that Sully and Skiles could have kept their
passengers high and dry by landing their plane at LaGuardia or Teterboro.
A pair of Airbus simulations, supposedly made available for the hearing thanks
to pressure from Sully's union, demonstrate they could have made it back to
LaGuardia or landed at Teterboro.
In the Eastwood version, Sully
brilliantly persuades the hearing officers to phone Airbus and ask them
to instantly rerun both simulations. In the film this is done with a
realistic 35 second delay necessary for the pilots to assess the bird strike
triggered crisis at dangerously low altitude.
When the hearing reconvenes after a
short recess, the French simulator pilots show a new more realistic scenario
that plane could not have reached either airport. This is portrayed as a
humiliating defeat for the big bad wolves in the NTSB lair.
The fact is, as Eastwood, Hanks and
Warner Brothers know, none of this ever happened. Tom Haueter, who
directed the NTSB's Office of Safety, at the time it oversaw the Flight 1549
investigation and final report says:
"We never got any pushback
from Sullenberger. The movie's portrayal of the French rerun of the
simulation of the crash never happened at our hearing.
"The movie makes it look like
Sullenberger forced us to do additional simulations during the hearing.
We had done those simulations months before and he had nothing to do with them.
"We concluded before the
hearing that he was right, that he made the best decision he could have at the
time, that he could not have made it back to either airport."
What about the scene in Eastwood's
film where an investigator challenges Sullenberger on whether or not one of
Flight 1549's engines was potentially capable of producing enough power to get
the plane back to LaGuardia?
"Not true," says Haueter,
now an independent safety consultant in Great Falls, Virginia.
"They couldn't have produced full power if they tried. They weren't
going to fly anymore.
"We concluded that they made
the best decision they could have made. They could have tried to do x, y
and z and land the plane in Central Park but that would not have been a bright
idea."
"We believe 99.9 percent of
all pilots in that situation would have done the same thing."
Another inexplicable Eastwood
change was playing the cockpit voice recorder during the film, an event that
triggers heartfelt words from the investigation team.
"We never played the cockpit
voice recorder during the hearing, as shown in the film," says Haueter.
Missing from the script is the fact
that some of the NTSB's safety recommendations resulting from the Flight 1539
investigation and hearing have been implemented to the benefit of American
airline passengers every day, including people who work for Warner Brothers.
Eastwood doesn't spend one second on this side of the story.
Should he, Tom Hanks (Sullenberger)
and Aaron Eckhart (as Skiles) win Oscar gold , their Hollywood victory will
clearly be at the expense of the "bureaucrats" at the NTSB falsely
accused of trying to sully the flight crew's reputation.
Damage has already been done as
some fans of the film stream out of theaters cursing a diligent and highly
praised federal agency that has made many life saving significant contributions
to aviation safety.
"I understand the need for a
movie to make money," says Haueter "But I have gotten a lot of
calls from pilots blasting the NTSB who believe the false story shown in the
film is absolutely real. This is going to be detrimental to future accident
investigations because people who see the film think they can't trust the NTSB.
"There are intelligent people
who have seen the film who think it is absolutely accurate, that this is the
way we are doing business. It says we don't trust the pilots . We
are asked:
"'Why should we trust you
people, you are only a shill for management trying to do in pilots. You
are trying to make us look bad, why should we talk to you.'
"The people I have talked to
from pilot unions who participated in this investigation are shocked by the
movie. Unfortunately for the NTSB, it is not going to be pretty.
"I have not heard anything
from Capitol Hill but I wouldn't be surprised if they are getting calls from
Congressmen and Senators asking what is going on.
Hanks and Eckhart's convincing
performances as Sully and Skiles have made the problem worse.
"People see the NTSB hearing
scene," says Haueter, "and they absolutely believe 100 percent that
this is what happened, that every word is true."
It's not going to be easy to undo
the fictional dialogue in the film that has already crossed the $94 million
mark worldwide, blasting away competition like Blair Witch and Bridget Jones's
Baby.
"From the day the movie came
out," says Hauter, "I have had people call and ask, 'how does the NTSB
run an investigation this way.'
"People who really know me
say, 'wow, it's a movie, it's not real.'
" But other people think that
the film is telling it like it was, that we were out to screw
Sullenberger."
"Eastwood believed it was
true. I find it interesting that when they made the movie they never approached
the NTSB.
"Sullenberger knows what
happened. You would think he would have said something."
FSI Contributing Editor Roger
Rapoport is the producer of the feature film Pilot Error.
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From: Yahoo! Mail
Date: 9/18/2016 9:11:24 AM
To:
Subject: Fw: SULLY, THE MOVIE
On Sunday, September 18, 2016 8:05 AM, Yahoo! Mail
<nicholasgravino@att.net> wrote:
Gary,
If I wrote the movie. I would have
written more about his childhood and love for aviation / I would have written
more on his military flying in the US Air Force. The main focus of the movie
was his approach and landing in the Hudson. i would have focused more on his
thoughts and actions during the approach and landing, namely what was going
through his mind and what was his concerns during the approach and landing,
such altitude, airspeed, decent rate, George Washington Bridge Crosswind. wings
level,touch down and evacuation. I would have had him talking himself down. My
philosophy during my career was, "ALL SEATS GET THERE AT THE SAME TIME,
HOWEVER, MINE GETS THERE FIRST." If I make it, they make it.
There were no scenes associated with ALPA or their Attorney.s. I would have
written something about not making a statement to the FAA/NTSB without having
an attorney present. I would have also mentioned that in the eyes oft the
FAA/NTSB, you are guilty until proven innocent. As I was taught many years ago,
"Admit Nothing. Deny Everything and Demand Proof." Our trip to the
Keys was great. it was a 3 1/2 hour drive but well worth it.We took Bella with
us, she is a Service Dog.
Uncle Nick
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From: Carol Faulkner
Date: 10/7/2016 1:12:01 PM
Subject:
PNWquickmessage re deltanet access
DL
retiree's,
If you are a DL retiree I want to let you know the DL web site for retiree's (and active) is changing it's web link. The old link still works but not much longer. Here is the new link:
https://deltanet.delta.com
JB
If you are a DL retiree I want to let you know the DL web site for retiree's (and active) is changing it's web link. The old link still works but not much longer. Here is the new link:
https://deltanet.delta.com
JB
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From: dbina@comcast.net
To: DWSkjerven@aol.com
Sent: 9/28/2016 8:26:27 A.M. Central Daylight Time
Subj: Delta Regional Jets
To: DWSkjerven@aol.com
Sent: 9/28/2016 8:26:27 A.M. Central Daylight Time
Subj: Delta Regional Jets
Delta Mulls $2.3 Billion Plane Purchase for Regional Fleet
Delta Air Lines Inc. is studying a purchase of roomier regional jets with a list value of as much as $2.3 billion -- provided the company can get the pilots' union to accept an overhaul of the small-plane fleet. The Atlanta-based carrier told the Air Line Pilots Association it wants the option of adding as many as 50 more planes in the 70- to 76-seat range, according to a union memo sent to pilots on Sept. 10. Those aircraft, which can accommodate coach and first-class cabins, are more fuel-efficient and profitable than the all-economy 50-seaters now flying many short hops. Delta also told the union it may eliminate the smaller planes without giving a timeline, according to the memo, which was obtained by Bloomberg News. The potential cost of buying larger regional jets is based on list prices for aircraft in the 70-seat range made by Embraer SA and Bombardier Inc., before discounts that are customary for large orders. Pilots' acceptance of the planes is crucial, because the current labor contract gives the union a say over which aircraft can be flown by Delta's lower-cost commuter partners. Delta is among the U.S. carriers cutting back on cramped 50-seaters in favor of more-efficient regional models. The union has objected to any additional 70- or 76-seat jets being flown by Delta's affiliate airlines, ALPA Chairman John Malone said. A spokesman for Delta declined to comment. Adding Luxury U.S. airlines have been switching to larger planes and cutting their use of 50-seat jets, where passengers have complained about small cabins and all-coach seating limits potential revenue. Delta had 153 of the aircraft as of July, compared with 309 three years ago, according to regulatory filings. Exclusive insights in your inbox, from our technology reporters around the world. While they cut the smaller models, airlines are adding some luxury to their larger 70- and 76-seat aircraft to resemble longer-haul planes more closely. In March, Delta announced an 18-month plan to spruce up its two-class regional jets by adding leather seats and in-seat power to first-class cabins and enhanced economy areas, as well as installing new carpet and overhead bins throughout the plane. The 50-seat jets are flown by Delta's regional affiliate airlines under the Delta Connection brand. Any new 76-seat aircraft would also be flown by the affiliates. So-called "scope clauses" in Delta pilots' union contract spell out rules on which aircraft can be flown by the affiliate airlines. Pilots for major airlines generally object to the practice of outsourcing any flights to the regional carriers and prefer that they be given all flights, said Louis Smith, president of consulting firm Future & Active Pilot Advisors. A looming shortage of people qualified to fly commercially may give pilots' unions more clout, he said. "With the bargaining power of mainline pilot unions increasing, I don't foresee any pilot group relaxing any of the rules related to scope clauses," Smith said. In the long term, Delta probably will bring more flying in-house and cut down on the use of regional carriers, said Michael Boyd, president of aviation consultant Boyd Group International. Pay and costs are rising among the smaller airlines, making them less attractive, he said. http://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2016-09-27/delta-mulls-2-3-billion-regional-jet-purchase-in-fleet-shift |
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Is it time for me to go? A representative response to Capt McGirl’s
suggestion below.
By the way, the PCN Dir/Editor is always
fair game to discuss in the equation. Though I took over from David Roberts and
his mail list, by combining it with my own we tripled the size of the PCN which
is still growing. There is, however, no claim of ownership. I serve.
That is what it is about and when my cup becomes full and my time is
done, I will ask someone to step up with their own unique style and keep our
network going to keep us connected in our online community.
From: Ed Morey
Date: 9/30/2016 12:45:53 AM
Subject: Pilots Newsletter
Mark,
This regards Pat McGirl’s letter in which he felt it was
time for you to be put out to pasture. Anyone who undertakes this
job has to be a glutton for punishment. The pay is nothing and the
time consummed is like being retired, but having a job. I appreciate
your work and it does what I think is important. Dave Roberts was a
gifted writer and I enjoyed his letter very much. You both undertook
the time and effort to take this on and each of you did it a little
different. What’s important to me is keeping in touch with the news
and information important to us all. You do that just fine for me.
Pat is a nice guy and maybe he would volunteer to take on
the job and give you a few months off to actually enjoy the time you would
normally spent on PCN to maybe take vacation or two to some spot you have been
wishing you had the free time to visit.
Regards,
Ed Morey
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