Delta Rejoining S&P 500 Boosts
Airlines Most Since April
By Mary Jane Credeur - Sep 9, 2013 4:49 PM ET
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From: Yorkieatl@aol.com
Date: 9/5/2013 3:16:47 PM
Subject: Delta to make a
series of investments in its people
September 4, 2013
Delta used feedback from the annual employee survey, employee involvement and network groups, Town Hall meetings and other channels to determine the investments that would be most meaningful to employees, which included pay and absence policies, among others.
Effective April 1, 2014, nearly all frontline Delta people worldwide will receive an increase in base pay of up to 3 percent, keeping them ahead of industry-standard pay as other airlines continue to work through consolidation, restructuring and protracted union negotiations. Richard noted in his memo that Delta does not intend to make employees wait for these issues to be settled before making further improvements in base pay. Merit employees throughout the system will participate in a 3% merit pool on April 1 as well.
In addition to pay increases, Delta will also make enhancements in its vacation and absence policies as part of the package of investments. In 2014, all vacation-eligible, U.S.-based employees who complete 25 years or more of continuous service will earn a fifth week of vacation. Delta people have continually shared through various feedback channels the high value they place on allowing all Delta people to have the opportunity to earn a fifth week of vacation. The significant progress Delta has made has positioned the airline to be able to invest in that area once again. Access to Certified Time will also be improved as part of the package of changes.
Delta previously shared with employees that the airline’s healthcare costs will increase by nearly $100 million next year due to the implementation of healthcare reform in the US and normal medical inflation. In his memo, Richard noted that Delta will absorb around 85 percent of that additional cost – a significant investment in itself in Delta people – at a time when many companies are cutting benefits for their employees. U.S. health plan participants will share the rest of the cost increase through some minor changes to Delta’s healthcare plans and marginal premium increases between $3 and $22 per month in its account-based plans, depending on the plan and tier in which an employee is enrolled.
Richard also shared that, as a result of inquiries from employees asking how to purchase Delta stock, Delta will offer U.S. employees the opportunity to buy Delta stock through payroll deduction. Details of the program will be announced later this year.
The announcement about these investments comes after Delta people pushed through a tough summer schedule that saw a record number of IROP days, but their resilience and perseverance have helped the airline continue to post great results.
“Our ability to make these significant investments in you is made possible by the great results we are producing together,” Richard said in the memo. “Thank you for all you do every day to make Delta a great place to work.”
Delta’s culture has long been defined by its history of open, honest and direct communication with its people, and the investments announced today are part of Delta’s 2013 Flight Plan goal to continue building a great place to work.
Detailed information on the package of investments is available on the Investing in You page on DeltaNet.
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Date: 9/2/2013 8:33:44 AM
Subject: PCN Highlife
Mark,
I appreciate your efforts at keeping retired Delta pilots
informed and together. I read all your posts, and most of the others here too.
I've often wanted to respond and put in my $.02 worth, but haven't figured out
how to do that. After reading Doug's post on the most recent HL, I decided to just
click this email address that was listed on his post. Is that the way it
works? Sending posts to a friend is easy enough, but responding to
other highlifers on the site isn't obvious to me. Maybe that's because it can't
be done. Recommendations appreciated.
………………………………………….
Take care. Thanks again.
Scott Hersha
Editor: When friend Scott
tells me that something “isn’t obvious” then I realize that I am goofing up a
bit. Scott’s post also allows me to make
a couple of points by way of review.
First, the author of a post must send their email with the post and I
try to always include the author’s email in the address box for the very reason
that Scott brings up. This should allow
subscribers to reply directly to the author.
This procedure was used by David Roberts so I thought best to continue
it. So the price of admission to get
your post included? You have to be
willing to identify yourself and to be accessible. Sometimes the author’s email address is hot-linked
and not written fully out. When that is
the case I will try more faithfully to copy and paste the full text of the
author’s email. If anyone ever has trouble replying to an author of a post they
can always email me and I will hook you up.
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From: DWSkjerven@aol.com
Date: September 4, 2013, 11:25:34 PM GMT+01:00
Subject: Senior Discounts - Updated list
Date: September 4, 2013, 11:25:34 PM GMT+01:00
Subject: Senior Discounts - Updated list
Retired Pilot good deals, especially after having their retirement
pensions not worth the paper it was written on and as good as a
Management/Lawyer's handshake.
Senior Discounts - Updated list
As I was waiting in line behind an older gentleman at Wendy's
recently, I heard him ask for his senior discount. The girl at the
register apologized and charged him less. When I asked the man what
the discount was, he told me that seniors over age 55 gets 10% off
everything on the menu, every day.
Being of 'that' age myself, I figured I might as well ask for the discount too.
This incident prompted me to do some research, and I came across a
list of restaurants, supermarkets, department stores, travel deals and
other types of offers giving various discounts with different age
requirements. I was actually surprised to see how many there are and
how some of them start at the young age of 50 .
This list may not only be useful for you, but for your friends and family too.
Dunkin Donuts gives free coffee to people over 55 . If you're paying
for a cup every day, you might want to start getting it for FREE.
YOU must ASK for your discount !
RESTAURANTS:
Applebee's: 15% off with Golden Apple Card (60+)
Arby's: 10% off ( 55 +)
Ben & Jerry's: 10% off (60+)
Bennigan's: discount varies by location (60+)
Bob's Big Boy: discount varies by location (60+)
BostonMarket: 10% off (65+)
Burger King: 10% off (60+)
Chick-Fil-A: 10% off or free small drink or coffee ( 55+)
Chili's: 10% off ( 55+)
CiCi's Pizza: 10% off (60+)
Denny's: 10% off, 20% off for AARP members ( 55 +)
Dunkin' Donuts: 10% off or free coffee ( 55+)
Einstein's Bagels: 10% off baker's dozen of bagels (60+)
Fuddrucker's: 10% off any senior platter ( 55+)
Gatti's Pizza: 10% off (60+)
Golden Corral: 10% off (60+)
Hardee's: $0.33 beverages everyday (65+)
IHOP: 10% off ( 55+)
Jack in the Box: up to 20% off ( 55+)
KFC: free small drink with any meal ( 55+)
Krispy Kreme: 10% off ( 50+)
Long John Silver's: various discounts at locations ( 55+)
McDonald's: discounts on coffee everyday ( 55+)
Mrs. Fields: 10% off at participating locations (60+)
Shoney's: 10% off Sonic: 10% off or free beverage (60+)
Steak 'n Shake: 10% off every Monday & Tuesday ( 50+)
Subway: 10% off (60+)
Sweet Tomatoes: 10% off (62+)
Taco Bell : 5% off; free beverages for seniors (65+)
TCBY: 10% off ( 55+)
Tea Room Cafe: 10% off ( 50+)
Village Inn: 10% off (60+)
Waffle House: 10% off every Monday (60+)
Wendy's: 10% off ( 55 +)
WhiteCastle: 10% off (62+) This is for me ... if I ever see one again.
RETAIL & APPAREL :
Banana Republic: 30% off ( 50 +)
Bealls: 20% off first Tuesday of each month ( 50 +)
Belk's: 15% off first Tuesday of every month ( 55 +)
Big Lots: 30% off
Bon-Ton Department Stores: 15% off on senior discount days ( 55 +)
C.J. Banks: 10% off every Wednesday (50+)
Clarks: 10% off (62+)
Dress Barn: 20% off ( 55+)
Goodwill: 10% off one day a week (date varies by location)
Hallmark: 10% off one day a week (date varies by location)
Kmart: 40% off (Wednesdays only) ( 50+)
Kohl's: 15% off (60+)
Modell's Sporting Goods: 30% off
Rite Aid: 10% off on Tuesdays & 10% off prescriptions
Ross Stores: 10% off every Tuesday ( 55+)
The Salvation Army Thrift Stores: up to 50% off ( 55+)
Stein Mart: 20% off red dot/clearance items first Monday of every month ( 55 +)
GROCERY :
Albertson's: 10% off first Wednesday of each month ( 55 +)
American Discount Stores: 10% off every Monday ( 50 +)
Compare Foods Supermarket: 10% off every Wednesday (60+)
DeCicco Family Markets: 5% off every Wednesday (60+)
Food Lion: 60% off every Monday (60+)
Fry's Supermarket: free Fry's VIP Club Membership & 10% off every
Monday ( 55 +)
Great Valu Food Store: 5% off every Tuesday (60+)
Gristedes Supermarket: 10% off every Tuesday (60+)
Harris Teeter: 5% off every Tuesday (60+)
Hy-Vee: 5% off one day a week (date varies by location)
Kroger: 10% off (date varies by location)
Morton Williams Supermarket: 5% off every Tuesday (60+)
The Plant Shed: 10% off every Tuesday ( 50 +)
Publix: 15% off every Wednesday ( 55 +)
RogersMarketplace: 5% off every Thursday (60+)
Uncle Guiseppe's Marketplace: 15% off (62+)
TRAVEL :
Airlines:
AlaskaAirlines: 50% off (65+) ????
American Airlines: various discounts for 50% off non-peak periods
(Tuesdays - Thursdays) (62+)and up (call before booking for discount)
Continental Airlines: no initiation fee for Continental Presidents
Club & special fares for select destinations
Southwest Airlines: various discounts for ages 65 and up (call before
booking for discount)
United Airlines: various discounts for ages 65 and up (call before
booking for discount)
U.S.Airways: various discounts for ages 65 and up (call before booking
for discount)
Rail:
Amtrak: 15% off (62+)
Bus:
Greyhound: 15% off (62+)
Trailways Transportation System: various discounts for ages 50+
Car Rental:
AlamoCar Rental: up to 25% off for AARP members
Avis: up to 25% off for AARP members
Budget Rental Cars: 40% off; up to 50% off for AARP members ( 50+)
Dollar Rent-A-Car: 10% off ( 50+) Enterprise Rent-A-Car: 5% off for
AARP members Hertz: up to 25% off for AARP members
National Rent-A-Car: up to 30% off for AARP members
Overnight Accommodations:
Holiday Inn: 20-40% off depending on location (62+)
Best Western: 40% off (55+)
CambriaSuites: 20%-30% off (60+)
Waldorf Astoria - NYC $5,000 off nightly rate for Presidential Suite(55 +)
Clarion Motels: 20%-30% off (60+)
Comfort Inn: 20%-30% off (60+)
Comfort Suites: 20%-30% off (60+)
Econo Lodge: 40% off (60+)
Hampton Inns & Suites: 40% off when booked 72 hours in advance
Hyatt Hotels: 25%-50% off (62+)
InterContinental Hotels Group: various discounts at all hotels (65+)
Mainstay Suites: 10% off with Mature Traveler's Discount (50+);
20%-30% off (60+)
Marriott Hotels: 25% off (62+)
Motel 6: Stay Free Sunday nights (60+)
Myrtle BeachResort: 30% off ( 55 +)
Quality Inn: 40%-50% off (60+)
Rodeway Inn: 20%-30% off (60+)
Sleep Inn: 40% off (60+)
ACTIVITIES & ENTERTAINMENT :
AMC Theaters: up to 30% off ( 55 +)
Bally Total Fitness: $100 off memberships (62+)
Busch Gardens Tampa, FL: $13 off one-day tickets ( 50 +)
Carmike Cinemas: 35% off (65+)
Cinemark/Century Theaters: up to 35% off
Massage Envy - NYC 20% off all "Happy Endings"(62 +)
U.S.National Parks: $10 lifetime pass; 50% off additional services
including camping (62+)
Regal Cinemas: 50% off Ripley's Believe it or Not: @ off one-day ticket ( 55 +)
SeaWorld, Orlando , FL : $3 off one-day tickets ( 50 +)
CELL PHONE DISCOUNTS :
AT&T: Special Senior Nation 200 Plan $19.99/month (65+)
Jitterbug: $10/month cell phone service ( 50 +)
Verizon Wireless: Verizon Nationwide 65 Plus Plan $29.99/month (65+).
MISCELLANEOUS:
Great Clips: $8 off hair cuts (60+)
Supercuts: $8 off haircuts (60+)
NOW, go out there and claim your discounts - - - - and remember ----
YOU must ASK for your discount ---- no ask, no discount
recently, I heard him ask for his senior discount. The girl at the
register apologized and charged him less. When I asked the man what
the discount was, he told me that seniors over age 55 gets 10% off
everything on the menu, every day.
Being of 'that' age myself, I figured I might as well ask for the discount too.
This incident prompted me to do some research, and I came across a
list of restaurants, supermarkets, department stores, travel deals and
other types of offers giving various discounts with different age
requirements. I was actually surprised to see how many there are and
how some of them start at the young age of 50 .
This list may not only be useful for you, but for your friends and family too.
Dunkin Donuts gives free coffee to people over 55 . If you're paying
for a cup every day, you might want to start getting it for FREE.
YOU must ASK for your discount !
RESTAURANTS:
Applebee's: 15% off with Golden Apple Card (60+)
Arby's: 10% off ( 55 +)
Ben & Jerry's: 10% off (60+)
Bennigan's: discount varies by location (60+)
Bob's Big Boy: discount varies by location (60+)
BostonMarket: 10% off (65+)
Burger King: 10% off (60+)
Chick-Fil-A: 10% off or free small drink or coffee ( 55+)
Chili's: 10% off ( 55+)
CiCi's Pizza: 10% off (60+)
Denny's: 10% off, 20% off for AARP members ( 55 +)
Dunkin' Donuts: 10% off or free coffee ( 55+)
Einstein's Bagels: 10% off baker's dozen of bagels (60+)
Fuddrucker's: 10% off any senior platter ( 55+)
Gatti's Pizza: 10% off (60+)
Golden Corral: 10% off (60+)
Hardee's: $0.33 beverages everyday (65+)
IHOP: 10% off ( 55+)
Jack in the Box: up to 20% off ( 55+)
KFC: free small drink with any meal ( 55+)
Krispy Kreme: 10% off ( 50+)
Long John Silver's: various discounts at locations ( 55+)
McDonald's: discounts on coffee everyday ( 55+)
Mrs. Fields: 10% off at participating locations (60+)
Shoney's: 10% off Sonic: 10% off or free beverage (60+)
Steak 'n Shake: 10% off every Monday & Tuesday ( 50+)
Subway: 10% off (60+)
Sweet Tomatoes: 10% off (62+)
Taco Bell : 5% off; free beverages for seniors (65+)
TCBY: 10% off ( 55+)
Tea Room Cafe: 10% off ( 50+)
Village Inn: 10% off (60+)
Waffle House: 10% off every Monday (60+)
Wendy's: 10% off ( 55 +)
WhiteCastle: 10% off (62+) This is for me ... if I ever see one again.
RETAIL & APPAREL :
Banana Republic: 30% off ( 50 +)
Bealls: 20% off first Tuesday of each month ( 50 +)
Belk's: 15% off first Tuesday of every month ( 55 +)
Big Lots: 30% off
Bon-Ton Department Stores: 15% off on senior discount days ( 55 +)
C.J. Banks: 10% off every Wednesday (50+)
Clarks: 10% off (62+)
Dress Barn: 20% off ( 55+)
Goodwill: 10% off one day a week (date varies by location)
Hallmark: 10% off one day a week (date varies by location)
Kmart: 40% off (Wednesdays only) ( 50+)
Kohl's: 15% off (60+)
Modell's Sporting Goods: 30% off
Rite Aid: 10% off on Tuesdays & 10% off prescriptions
Ross Stores: 10% off every Tuesday ( 55+)
The Salvation Army Thrift Stores: up to 50% off ( 55+)
Stein Mart: 20% off red dot/clearance items first Monday of every month ( 55 +)
GROCERY :
Albertson's: 10% off first Wednesday of each month ( 55 +)
American Discount Stores: 10% off every Monday ( 50 +)
Compare Foods Supermarket: 10% off every Wednesday (60+)
DeCicco Family Markets: 5% off every Wednesday (60+)
Food Lion: 60% off every Monday (60+)
Fry's Supermarket: free Fry's VIP Club Membership & 10% off every
Monday ( 55 +)
Great Valu Food Store: 5% off every Tuesday (60+)
Gristedes Supermarket: 10% off every Tuesday (60+)
Harris Teeter: 5% off every Tuesday (60+)
Hy-Vee: 5% off one day a week (date varies by location)
Kroger: 10% off (date varies by location)
Morton Williams Supermarket: 5% off every Tuesday (60+)
The Plant Shed: 10% off every Tuesday ( 50 +)
Publix: 15% off every Wednesday ( 55 +)
RogersMarketplace: 5% off every Thursday (60+)
Uncle Guiseppe's Marketplace: 15% off (62+)
TRAVEL :
Airlines:
AlaskaAirlines: 50% off (65+) ????
American Airlines: various discounts for 50% off non-peak periods
(Tuesdays - Thursdays) (62+)and up (call before booking for discount)
Continental Airlines: no initiation fee for Continental Presidents
Club & special fares for select destinations
Southwest Airlines: various discounts for ages 65 and up (call before
booking for discount)
United Airlines: various discounts for ages 65 and up (call before
booking for discount)
U.S.Airways: various discounts for ages 65 and up (call before booking
for discount)
Rail:
Amtrak: 15% off (62+)
Bus:
Greyhound: 15% off (62+)
Trailways Transportation System: various discounts for ages 50+
Car Rental:
AlamoCar Rental: up to 25% off for AARP members
Avis: up to 25% off for AARP members
Budget Rental Cars: 40% off; up to 50% off for AARP members ( 50+)
Dollar Rent-A-Car: 10% off ( 50+) Enterprise Rent-A-Car: 5% off for
AARP members Hertz: up to 25% off for AARP members
National Rent-A-Car: up to 30% off for AARP members
Overnight Accommodations:
Holiday Inn: 20-40% off depending on location (62+)
Best Western: 40% off (55+)
CambriaSuites: 20%-30% off (60+)
Waldorf Astoria - NYC $5,000 off nightly rate for Presidential Suite(55 +)
Clarion Motels: 20%-30% off (60+)
Comfort Inn: 20%-30% off (60+)
Comfort Suites: 20%-30% off (60+)
Econo Lodge: 40% off (60+)
Hampton Inns & Suites: 40% off when booked 72 hours in advance
Hyatt Hotels: 25%-50% off (62+)
InterContinental Hotels Group: various discounts at all hotels (65+)
Mainstay Suites: 10% off with Mature Traveler's Discount (50+);
20%-30% off (60+)
Marriott Hotels: 25% off (62+)
Motel 6: Stay Free Sunday nights (60+)
Myrtle BeachResort: 30% off ( 55 +)
Quality Inn: 40%-50% off (60+)
Rodeway Inn: 20%-30% off (60+)
Sleep Inn: 40% off (60+)
ACTIVITIES & ENTERTAINMENT :
AMC Theaters: up to 30% off ( 55 +)
Bally Total Fitness: $100 off memberships (62+)
Busch Gardens Tampa, FL: $13 off one-day tickets ( 50 +)
Carmike Cinemas: 35% off (65+)
Cinemark/Century Theaters: up to 35% off
Massage Envy - NYC 20% off all "Happy Endings"(62 +)
U.S.National Parks: $10 lifetime pass; 50% off additional services
including camping (62+)
Regal Cinemas: 50% off Ripley's Believe it or Not: @ off one-day ticket ( 55 +)
SeaWorld, Orlando , FL : $3 off one-day tickets ( 50 +)
CELL PHONE DISCOUNTS :
AT&T: Special Senior Nation 200 Plan $19.99/month (65+)
Jitterbug: $10/month cell phone service ( 50 +)
Verizon Wireless: Verizon Nationwide 65 Plus Plan $29.99/month (65+).
MISCELLANEOUS:
Great Clips: $8 off hair cuts (60+)
Supercuts: $8 off haircuts (60+)
NOW, go out there and claim your discounts - - - - and remember ----
YOU must ASK for your discount ---- no ask, no discount
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Update from Steve
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From: ldagley@comcast.net
To: DeltaDMB@gmail.com, lbezdek@sbcglobal.net, louisrabe@att.net, scgruebnau@sbcglobal.net, DWSkjerven@aol.com, bjsco@comcast.net, kakrabe@att.net, jeschlough@sbcglobal.net, gayle.bezdek@gmail.com, jjfitz167@gmail.com
Sent: 9/10/2013 6:21:18 A.M. Central Daylight Time
Subj: Fwd: P-8 info from John Larson
To: DeltaDMB@gmail.com, lbezdek@sbcglobal.net, louisrabe@att.net, scgruebnau@sbcglobal.net, DWSkjerven@aol.com, bjsco@comcast.net, kakrabe@att.net, jeschlough@sbcglobal.net, gayle.bezdek@gmail.com, jjfitz167@gmail.com
Sent: 9/10/2013 6:21:18 A.M. Central Daylight Time
Subj: Fwd: P-8 info from John Larson
For the sub chasers in our group.
Larry
To: "Larry Dagley" <ldagley@comcast.net>
Sent: Tuesday, September 10, 2013 6:14:05 AM
Subject: P-8 info from John Larson
Larry, if you have any ex nave types that might be interested in this.
Tom
Sent: Tuesday, September 10, 2013 6:14:05 AM
Subject: P-8 info from John Larson
Larry, if you have any ex nave types that might be interested in this.
Tom
For you ex P2 and P3 guys and
anybody else that might be interested. Thought this was a pretty definitive run
down of the “P8”...the next ASW aircraft replacing the P3.
For your info-forwarded by Mark
Gilsdorf.
Jack
Greetings
everyone,
I attended the
VP-4 reunion this past weekend in Seattle, WA. We were scheduled to get a tour
of the Boeing Redding plant where the P-8 is being assembled. Since we had such
a large group, we were not allowed at the plant for security reasons.
So we had a
briefing at the Museum of Flight at Boeing Field. The Boeing rep was a former
TACCO in VP-4. He was in VP-4 during the late 1990’s. Some of this info will be
a repeat of what I put out before.
So far VP-30,
VP-16, and VP-5 have P-8’s. 10 planes have been delivered and they have
flown 6000hrs and 1000 operational and training sorties since Feb 2012. VP-16
will deploy to Kadena, Okinawa this coming Dec.
The Mission
systems are: updated multi-mode radar (7 modes), electro optics, ESM,
acoustics; can monitor 64 sonobuoys. It has self-protection = chaff and flares.
It missions will be ASW, ASuW, ISR, Maritime, and C-3.
The aircraft
will carry 126 sonobuoys. There are 3 launchers that can hold 10 buoys each.
They are pressurized; don’t have to depressurize the plane. There are
individual tubes to launch buoys too. The new sonos will be more accurate
and Boeing says there is no need for a mad boom now.
There is a
weapons bay aft of the wings. It can hold 5 MK-52 torpedoes. There are 4 wing
stations that will hold harpoon missiles.
There is a laser
under the tail that is used for protection against inbound missiles.
The airplane has
two engines generators and the apu has one. It will have 150% of the power
required.
The aircraft
will have 9 crew members, 3 pilots, 2 nfo, and 4 aw’s. There are 21
seating positions. There are 3 inertial systems on the plane. The NAV was
referred as the second TACCO.
The engines are
CFM-56 engines with 27,300 lbs. of thrust. Fuel flow at 200 ft. is 5500
lbs./hr. and at 20000 ft. it will be 5200 lbs./hr. The max ceiling is
41000 ft. and low altitude is 200ft. It has a range of 1200 miles with 4
hrs. on station. Max speed is 490 kts. Flt time will be 12 hours without
inflight refueling. With refueling it will be 22 hrs., that is based on the oil
consumption on the engines. The Max gross weight will be 189,200 lbs.
The Navy will
get 117 aircraft. The first 37 will be delivered thru 2015. They were allocated
before sequester. Each aircraft costs $126 million. Each squadron will
get 6 aircraft. They will be based at Jacksonville and Whidbey Is. Kaneohe will
go away and will become a detachment site. Jax will convert first.
The fuselage are
built in Wichita, KS and shipped by rail to the plant at Renton, WA. The wings,
engines and tail are put on there. The plane goes to Boeing Field where
the systems are installed and the plane is completed.
The Indian Navy
is acquiring 8 aircraft. They wanted to have a MAD boom incorporated. Boeing
had to make changes to the APU in the tail to make it work.
In the future
the P-8 could control UAV’s from the plane. This doesn’t apply to the Global
Hawk UAV. Also there might be UAV’s that could launch from the P-8. They would
unfold their wings and fly under control from the P-8. The plane has CAT 3
landing capabilities, but the Navy will not certify the plane or keep the
pilots or plane current. CAT 3 allows the pilot land in very low visibility.
Also the plane has inflight refueling capability. But the Navy is not going to
do that for a couple of years.
It was
interesting and informative to listen to the presentation.
John Larson
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