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Monday, July 29, 2013

Misc - HL 176 (1)


First, Asiana now Southwest:


Date: 07/27/13 11:04:37


Bcc: mark sztanyo

Subject: SW Laguardia

 

Folks,  The bottom commentary is from a pilot who witnessed the LGA incident.

The top commentary is from a friend of mine who was commenting on the 1st brief.

 Amazing world we live in.

 Jerry
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Amazing ! 

I thought all incidents/ accidents/ close calls/ poor airmanship/ pilot with lack of balls/ pilots who don't fly like us/ and everything else I can't think of right now is always caused by "trying to use AutoFlight too much" without the proper training. 

Historically, WN pilots are not known to be over reliant on automation, since the airline stayed Steam Gauge for years past its prime.

I just assumed since the "Culture of SWA" has always been fast taxi, land in the first 100' with Navy 3 point landings with Max breaking to make taxiway A to get to the Gate under One Minute, it would be a Cultural issue here. 

Nope. I can tell since NTSB Ms Deborah has been silent this week, and no twice a day fact briefings, Culture or Pilot error is not involved. I stand corrected. 

Will be interesting to see what the "Investigation" finds, when given time to find.  As it should be. 

 




Sent: Friday, July 26, 2013 7:57:09 PM


 Subject: Fwd: SW Laguardia

This account posted on a US Air web board...

 "Here is what I saw. We were on taxiway B short of CY abeam the  AA hanger. We were around 2000 ft from the runway end and had a  complete view of the first 2000 ft of the runway. WN seemed high  crossing the threshold and was around 20-30 ft above the 1000ft  marker when they flared and ballooned even higher. At this point  the three of us thought he was going around until he pushed the  nose over. I will admit it was such a hard pushover that even
 before he hit the ground at the 1500 ft marker, nose gear first  (barley before the underside of the AC nose hit I yelled Holy  S**t. I believe after the pushover someone tried to get the nose  back up but it was a lost cause. The fact the AC stayed in one  piece is amazing. The nose gear looked like it was on a shock  disappearing back into the wheel well. The left engine hit first  and the AC started sliding left. It was pure luck that no one  was hurt, as the area it came to a stop in had a few minutes  earlier been full of AC taxiing.".


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